{ not until he's drunk as well--and that's a difficult hurdle to cross. }

Exactly. The two of that went looked at it, attempted to go around them and left when it appeared we'd be disturbing their home. I think my companion at the time was worried their brother would have wanted him to bring some back.

And yes, I have no shame in saying that. Dogs are loyal and follow orders, there's much more to be appreciative of.